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When you meet a veteran, stop talking and start listening. On Veterans Day and throughout the year, the American College of Surgeons (ACS) thanks the veterans on staff for their service鈥攁nd will never tire of hearing their stories.

鈥淚 grew up really fast in the Air Force,鈥� said Freddie Scruggs, Regional Program Coordinator, Trauma Programs. 鈥淚 was tired of school, and I was looking for some change in my life.鈥� After enlisting in the Air Force and completing basic training in 1970 in San Antonio, TX, Freddie was sent to Utah, where he learned to fly a helicopter and fight fires. Then in 1971, he boarded a plane to Da Nang Air Base in central Vietnam. 鈥淚t was scary,鈥� he said. Thousands of miles from home, he was forced to rely on his own wits and the lessons he had acquired in basic training. The experience constantly tested his resolve and humanity. 鈥淚 think the whole experience made me a better judge of character and always aware of my surroundings. Every day was a learning experience.鈥�

One day the copter that Freddie shared with five other soldiers was shot down. 鈥淲e all survived the crash, but we were in the jungle for about a week about 30 to 40 miles from an outpost waiting to be rescued,鈥� he said. To stay hydrated, Freddie sucked on tree bark. 鈥淭he meat of the tree bark is filled with liquid,鈥� he said. 鈥淵ou can survive three weeks without food, but the body cannot survive for many days without water.鈥� Through his experiences in Vietnam, Freddie gained a direct understanding of what it means to treat traumatic injury. 鈥淚t has helped me in my job in ACS Trauma and has given me an understanding of the types of injuries the doctors see and how they treat them,鈥� he said.

Also serving in Vietnam was Lewis M. Flint, MD, FACS, Editor-in-Chief, Selected Readings in General Surgery (SRGS庐). Dr. Flint served in the reserves while attending Duke University Medical School. Then in 1968, he was sent to the 71st Evacuation Hospital, Pleiku, in Vietnam, where he stayed until January 1969. The surgical experience Dr. Flint gained during the war was invaluable, 鈥渢he best thing that happened to my professional career,鈥� he said. 鈥淚t was a great learning experience. The injuries you see in combat are 10 times worse than anything you encounter in practice in the States,鈥� he said, noting that he treated cases of cerebral malaria and typhoid fever, conditions he wouldn鈥檛 have encountered in a residency program. 鈥淢ost of the time, we took care of broken bones, and in the process, we learned so much about medical systems for treating injuries.鈥�

Dr. Flint was in Vietnam during the Tet Offensive, January鈭扚ebruary 1968. The North Vietnamese waged a campaign of surprise attacks against military and civilian commands and control centers throughout South Vietnam. Dr. Flint recalls that during the Tet Offensive, his surgical team performed as many as 220 operations in a 24-hour period. He vividly recalls this challenging and tense time鈥攂ut it was this experience, he said, that convinced him that he wanted to become a trauma surgeon.

David P. Winchester, MD, FACS, Medical Director, ACS Cancer Programs, was drafted into the U.S. Army in 1964. His first assignment, which came shortly after he completed his internship but before he began his residency, was in a small hospital in Aberdeen, MD. With a wife and three children and another child on the way, Dr. Winchester received word that he would be joining the 25th Infantry Division Hospital at Cu Chi, Vietnam, about 35 miles from Saigon. 鈥淚 wasn鈥檛 thrilled about it,鈥� he said, 鈥渂ut I was doing my duty.鈥� He spent a good amount of time at the hospital delivering basic medical care to South Vietnamese families and caring for wounded soldiers, who were then sent to nearby field hospitals. 鈥淣othing really surprised me about the injured soldiers we were seeing,鈥� he said. 鈥淭he really bad injuries were usually fatal.

鈥淏ecause this was before my residency, I was a general medical officer and didn鈥檛 have a lot of interesting cases,鈥� he said. 鈥淚 remember many discussions I had with other soldiers about the senselessness of this engagement. Many of us didn鈥檛 have positive feelings about the war, but we didn鈥檛 have a choice.鈥�

Dr. Winchester recalls the time he participated as the physician on a search and destroy mission鈥攕earch for the enemy and then destroy him. An enemy鈥檚 shot narrowly missed him. 鈥淭he enemy lived underground in a network of tunnels, and there was always a danger that someone would pop up and take a shot at you,鈥� he said. He recalls being in a foxhole for a mission鈥攏ot so easy for a man who stands 6' 5". 鈥淭he only really scary time was when we were under attack,鈥� he said, but for the most part, the hospital was safe ground. Several years later, Dr. Winchester and his wife toured Vietnam and visited Cu Chi鈥攁nd saw the very elaborate network of tunnels still intact.

Missing the Vietnam conflict by a couple years, Jim Hayes, Facilities Assistant, enlisted in the U.S. Army in 1976. Jim was looking for adventure and a chance to see the world. 鈥淚 enlisted because I wanted to serve my country,鈥� Jim said. He was sent to Los Angeles, where he received training in radio communications operations. Jim had a desire to fight in a war, but his service ended in 1979, a time of relative peace for the U.S. The back-breaking work, the pushups, kitchen patrol duty, and the commanding officers鈥� constant yelling didn鈥檛 bother Jim. He grew accustomed to being roused from bed at 5:00 am and then standing at attention for two hours. 鈥淚鈥檓 used to hard work, and I was pretty good with all of the physical demands,鈥� he said. On his first day in basic training, the drill sergeant ordered the recruits to run around the premise carrying their 50-60 pound backpacks. 鈥淵ou didn鈥檛 get in trouble as long as you followed the rules, and did what your parents had already taught you,鈥� Jim said. He learned to decode radio messages.

Jim recalls the shock of returning home to the West Side of Chicago. The neighborhood had completely changed鈥攂ut so had he. 鈥淭hey say you grow up in the military, and that鈥檚 true,鈥� he said. 鈥淚 left Chicago as a boy and came back as a man.鈥� The close friendships that Jim forged during his service days will always be a good memory for him, but sadly, he has not been able to stay in contact with all of his service buddies.

Jimm Dodd, Manager, Trauma Systems Programs, says that his military career began when he was a child. 鈥淲hen I was five, I told my dad that I was going to join the Army. I realized even at that early age the impact that the military has on our lives.鈥� Jimm found himself in the 鈥渉ot seat鈥� in 2003 when he was sent to Iraq to fight in the U.S. invasion. 鈥淚 know there were moments when I said to myself, 鈥楾his isn鈥檛 training anymore. This is reality, and we have to defend ourselves.鈥�"

鈥淲e didn鈥檛 know what to expect in Iraq,鈥� he said. After his first tour of duty, Jimm returned to Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times, where he served as a Hospital Commander and a physician鈥檚 assistant. 鈥淐oming home was very difficult,鈥� he said. 鈥淚t鈥檚 hard to assimilate. When you鈥檙e in the service, you are in a routine, and you are in a bubble. There鈥檚 a lot to deal with when you get home.鈥� As a result, Jimm knows that he is in the unique position to provide an empathetic ear to other returnees. 鈥淚 was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, and there are certain things I probably will never be able to do again鈥濃�攍ike, for instance, sit passively in an enclosed movie theater. Today he tells returning soldiers, 鈥淒on鈥檛 be afraid to be afraid.鈥�

鈥淭here are lots of resources available to all of us, and people do care about us,鈥� Jimm said. He learned in the Army to seek out a 鈥渂attle buddy鈥� in combat. Now he seeks out battle buddies in the civilian world. Having served in the military helps Jimm keep other aspects of life in perspective. 鈥淚 like the relative quiet here at the College. Here if we don鈥檛 get something done on time, nobody鈥檚 going to die,鈥� he said.

鈥淭he military trained me to be a leader,鈥� he said, which included being in command of up to 300 people in a combat zone. Jimm has no regrets. 鈥淚f I could do it all again, I would not change a single moment of my military career,鈥� he said. 鈥淢y dream was to become a soldier, and that鈥檚 what I did.鈥�

Joining the military wasn鈥檛 on Whitney Greer鈥檚 radar. Now the Managing Editor of SRGS, Whitney was a hard-working, conscientious high school student who was exceptionally shy, always brought home good grades, and never ventured far from home. Then, as an undergraduate at the University of Chicago, she met with an Army recruiter on campus and almost on a whim, decided to enlist. 鈥淚 had started college, but I had no idea what I was doing with my life,鈥� she said. In August 1992, Whitney reported for basic training at Fort Leonard Wood, MO. 鈥淚 grew up as an only child, and suddenly I was surrounded by other people all the time who were so unlike me,鈥� she said. Whitney could meet the physical demands of basic training, but she initially fought terrible bouts of homesickness. Having commands yelled at her was also a difficult adjustment. (鈥淣o one had ever yelled at me before,鈥� she said.) But she was determined to persevere. 鈥淭he military teaches you very quickly what you鈥檙e made of,鈥� Whitney said. One thing she learned about herself: 鈥淚 do not like failing.鈥� So no matter how rigorous training became for her, she would not give up.

To Whitney鈥檚 surprise, the aptitude tests she took showed that she had a knack for electronics. After graduating from basic training, she reported to Camp Gordon, GA, to learn how to fix electronic equipment and gradually to overcome her shyness. 鈥淚 learned to enjoy collaborating with other people,鈥� she said. 鈥淚t became part of my job to be more social. I wasn鈥檛 terrified of people anymore, and I learned how to carry on conversations.鈥�

She spent a year with peace-keeping forces in Korea. 鈥淏efore I joined the service, Chicago had been my whole world,鈥� she said. 鈥淒uring that year, I explored Korean culture, and I got to see so much of the country鈥檚 beauty. The military gave me an opportunity to really appreciate the beauty of this world.鈥� Whitney happily notes that the military helped make her the person she is today.